Curse

Yuris Sayuri · Jun 27, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by namkey

I hope this does not come back to bite me on the arse.

Pink: Dash
Orange: Ram
Red: SRB

If you dont get the combo in the water before 47 seconds, you have very little chance of making top 100.

I will be away for a few hours from now, so don't expect any responses. Also, please stop contacting me in game. I enjoy being popular, but a request for help every minute or two gets a tad annoying.

Edit: Gate 5 is out by a bit, but yuo know anyway ;P, use that dash just before the gate. I also got one ram wrong, I put it as just before gate 6, bu you use it at the top of the bridges to get over without losing speed.

I wanna start with Namkeys Guide because thats still the basic to get times like 478. But ull need a lot of small changes to get times about 483.

Hints: - Start: In fact u cannot control the superstart (55% speed from beginning) but there're a few possibilities to increase the chance of getting it. (try and observe new stuff)
- Dash is a much more powerful tool, when you use it after your beetle gains his maximum speed by himself with no speed boosts.
- Checkpoint 1: The fastest way is the right one.
- Checkpoint 2: U can take the s-curve as tight as possible. Lagg wont throw u back there.
- Dont take both boxes in the water, they steal too much time. One box should be enough. Race close to the corner.
- Checkpoint 3; cowcave: Chance to get SRB from the left box is nearly 0% (Im not the only one who noticed that)
- Checkpoint 4: If u got SRB u always can go through the water. Same again... Dont take boxes in the water! They steal more time than u probably think. (U can take as much boxes as u want if u dont got the echo+srb combo)
- Checkpoint 5: U shouldnt take the spiral bride tightely - just stay in middle for no laggs. Dont hit boxes any longer.
- checkpoint 6-7; Gate7: Ram + dash + ram doesnt work that well there. Try some new stuff. Stay left at the top of the hill to minimize lagg.
- Ram: Ram works the best for short distances because it causes big speed decreases. It shouldnt be used for long distances (max. 2 seconds)

- I NEVER use ram to KD other people.
- All bugs were fixed. Concentrate on ur own. Cry less and practise more.
- It doesnt matter how many enemies u beat 1 000 099 or 1 000 030. But it would be nice if Anet let the Top100 available only once per acc/name.

Good Luck to everybody and Have Fun. Give ur best. Wanna have some competition

Yuri

Holly Herro · Jun 27, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Edit:

Gogo top 100 meeeee! ;D

Horus · Jun 27, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

ty very much

Ctb · Jun 27, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Quote:

All bugs were fixed. Concentrate on ur own. Cry less and practise more.

Or you could just play the bloody thing for fun instead of being a whiner about losing or a knob about winning.... but I guess that's not an option.

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

willypiggy · Jun 27, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Or you could just play the bloody thing for fun instead of being a whiner about losing or a knob about winning.... but I guess that's not an option.

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

I can understand where you come from but at the end of the day knowledge is power. If you understand how mechanics work then you can manipulate them to your will

Anywhom, I will be trying for top 100 this year during my attempts to get R1 Gamer (I seriously don't know why after 1 and a half years I only have 500~ points) and this has helped alot, thanks!

Martin Alvito · Jun 27, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Thanks for reposting - now I won't have to pretype "google namkey rollerbeetle map, third page of old guru thread" every time

Some additional notes:

1) Connection and FPS are essential, connection more than FPS. I find that a ping north of about 250 leads to one of two undesirable outcomes - either I lag out on another beetle at the start or I rubberband the beach. Your threshold for where it becomes impossible to post a time may vary.

FPS in the 10-15 range just won't get it done - you just can't take corners tightly. However, I've managed 481k on a machine in the low 20s. Not my regular machine - that one has an old Radeon 9600, something along the lines of an Athlon 1800 and 768k of RAM, to give you an idea of 'minimum' specs.

2) Contact with other beetles is BAD. Because of the slight delay to and from server for everyone, other beetles are little lag monsters that will desynch you if you touch them. Assume that every beetle is about two beetle-lengths ahead of where they appear to be on the screen and react accordingly, and take pains to ensure that they do not come into contact with you if at all possible.

You can use this to your advantage, however. If you get saddled with a KD powerup at the first box (Spit/Blast), you often can stack up several beetles in the chokepoint on the way to the right box. This will almost always ensure that you never see anyone again; it's like a ten second penalty for the beetles involved. Easy way to get a win if you start cleanly.

3) Zoom all the way in. You take corners more smoothly that way. I generally take the first seven seconds or so zoomed out, then zoom in once I'm clear of traffic and stay that way for the duration.

4) Dash at the start really is bad. It LOOKS like a good idea when you hit the first checkpoint at :17, but it ends up costing you momentum to the second checkpoint, leading to a net loss of time. However, if you get the high momentum start, the Dash start is preferable.

Interesting observation on the left cow box. I rarely hit that one; if you are at combo speed, you have to lift off the accelerator for a brief moment to hit it, and I've never cared for that.

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Originally Posted by Ctb

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

We're competitive people facing a function that meets the criteria for the existence of a maximum. Anything that can be optimized should be optimized, and the test is whether or not you can do it better than millions of other people. If you don't want to do it "right", that's your own business, but consider:

1) The faster I win, the faster I get a new match. More gamer points = good.
2) If I do well, everyone can see that I do well. This is good for the ego.

The time investment in figuring out how a system like this works usually more than pays for itself.

Yuris Sayuri · Jun 27, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Or you could just play the bloody thing for fun instead of being a whiner about losing or a knob about winning.... but I guess that's not an option.

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

Dont get me wrong. Im loving RBR thats why its easier to win.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Some additional notes:

1) Connection and FPS are essential, connection more than FPS. I find that a ping north of about 250 leads to one of two undesirable outcomes - either I lag out on another beetle at the start or I rubberband the beach. Your threshold for where it becomes impossible to post a time may vary.

An Additional hint for the beginning. U never know where u are, in front, behind or next to ur enemy? The Highscore never lies, take a look for 1. 2. 3. place to exactly know where u are. Keep in mind ure often much more behind than it probably looks like.

Martin Firestorm · Jun 27, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

That research, followed by playing with the benefit of what you've learned, is one of my fav things about GW. It takes a lot of different folks to make a world.

AngelikaStar · Jun 27, 2008, 07:44 PM // 19:44

Woot Roller beetles is come up again since dragon festival in july

Much Love Angel~

deathwearer · Jun 27, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Can we do these yet?

byteme! · Jun 27, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

You didn't really have to post your strategy. You've proven time and again you're better then the rest. With or without the bugs. I guess this way it'll put an end to all the sore losers and crybabies in the past from calling you a cheat. They suck and they are in denial. I really hope you still maintain your top100 just to prove a point to these lamers.

Ctb · Jun 27, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Yea, I'm not disagreeing with the overall premise of the process and accomplishments, just observing that the ability to recognize structure like this is a valuable skill that is kind of wasted on a video game, especially one that's going to be shut down someday no matter what you accomplish in it.

Although, really, it was just the snotty "cry less" comment in the op in combination with the lazy textspeak that set me off, not the subject itself, so much. I hate lazy children using textspeak... my precioussssss

I like RBR and prefer to play it for fun, so this doesn't really affect me one way or another.

Shadey · Jun 27, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Or you could just play the bloody thing for fun instead of being a whiner about losing or a knob about winning.... but I guess that's not an option.

I'll never understand why MMO players insist on trying to reduce a video game to a set of manipulatable rules. It just seems like your time researching things like this could be spent on so many other useful things.

But, whatever. To each their own, I suppose.

Please uninstall the Internet

theonetheonlybruce · Jun 27, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

i never been good at this maybe this year i have a chance

Martin Alvito · Jun 27, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Although, really, it was just the snotty "cry less" comment in the op in combination with the lazy textspeak that set me off, not the subject itself, so much. I hate lazy children using textspeak... my precioussssss

Yuri's first language is not English. That affect your opinion any?

I assure you that my grammar would be horrid if I were typing Spanish on this board, ya know?

Solas · Jun 27, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Thanks for the hints,
If people go back in time, things will proberly end up into a flamefest.
So try adn stay on topic><

captain_carter · Jun 28, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed

If people go back in time, things will proberly end up into a flamefest.

I guess it's a good job that isn't possible then

FeroxC · Jun 29, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

LOL finally a chance to finish off that R3 gamer and im going on holiday on the 4th-7th

Ekelon · Jun 29, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

If you have more than 200 ping, then don't even try playing this game. You won't win top 100 very easily. Just my .02 cents.

Staleaox · Jun 29, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekelon

If you have more than 200 ping, then don't even try playing this game. You won't win top 100 very easily. Just my .02 cents.

The lag may end up somehow working in your favor